A seller from Serbia http://tinyurl.com/q4gdnv5
but he is not alone.
Two clan members offer fakes from the same source of supply
http://ancientartifakes.net/smf/index.php/topic,1115.0.html
http://ancientartifakes.net/smf/index.php/topic,1116.0.html
Between authentic bronze artefacts (mostly rings) he sells good made silver ring forgeries. We strongly recommend this topic http://ancientartifakes.net/smf/index.php/topic,1100.0.html
It takes a relative trained eye to detect the engravings/rings as fakes.
The Romans engraved with hand-carving tools (punches).With the help of carving tools blow is set next to blow up to continuous lines, dotted lines or simple ornamental motifs were realized in constant repetition. It can be seen mostly where the punch was restarted again.
The jeweler usually uses a graver, which is a tool that has a sharp chisel at the end to produce deep and bright cuts. More modern,faster and more accurate, are laser engravings, of which are not as deep as the hand engraving and abrade quickly.
compare the engraving style - surely made from the same hand
I have combined these three sellers.All three come from the former Yugoslavia. All three try to specify the location differently.
On the territory of the former Yugoslavia, which was slightly smaller than the old Federal Republic of Germany, seven states have formed since 1991: Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, Kosovo and Macedonia.
aca_numismatics = Europe Yugoslavia
master-numismatics = Europe, Serbia
markovicenza = Serbia
one have to know that sometimes the former provinces are separated by a road only.I think these three sellers form a "group of companies" or belong to a clan with the same dubious intentions to ................. sell well-made fakes as real things.
Pls. refer also to the threads and interesting pics from his branches, family clan members or likely Maffia collegues :-)
http://ancientartifakes.net/smf/index.php/topic,1115.0.html
http://ancientartifakes.net/smf/index.php/topic,1116.0.html
Please refer to this thread too: http://ancientartifakes.net/smf/index.php/topic,1100.0.html
As already mentioned, all the silver and gold rings and now the seal have the same surface. There are fine blasting equipment with which you can edit, inter alia, the surfaces of metal and stone objects. Depending on the used medium (coarse sand grains, ruby grains, etc.), the surfaces look different. The drawback to this method is that the surfaces are roughened evenly.
The engravings are surely from the same hand.
Obvious fake - not sustained style, rough style. I'm not a collector rings, but this...
please compare the engraving of the ring of aca_numismatics and this seller. Same hand for sure
It's really incredible. All rings artificially made to look old with the same surface. Constantly repeating wing engraving variations.
And between now and then a real piece (but then most with fake engraving)
Negative feedback Counterfeit coin. Beware! he sells "PERFECT" die-matched fakes & cast forgeries Käufer: a***n ( 186 )
answer markovicenza (16.06.14 23:39):
The coin is perfect and 100% authentic.The buyer is deliberately given negative.
** PERFECT **Severus Alexander Denarius. 228-231 AD.ancient silver roman coin (Nr.121320230665) US $46,25
One of the most successful sales strategies for fakes is used skillfully by the troika from the former Yugoslavia ............ to mix many fakes among some genuine items.
Works just fine, as you can see. Every good or bad fake is bought without hesitation.
Not one ebay buyer wonders that suddenly lots of allegedly genuine Roman silver and gold rings are coming from a country that has strict export bans for its Roman cultural heritage. Actually, you only need to count 2 and 2 together to know that most items can only be fakes. Here the export ban, of course, does not apply.
PS. the "bee" joke has been sold for US $213,50
What an innovation ......... Finally the swastika as a ring. Although just from the workshop of the fake manufacturers. Nevertheless, the more experienced ebay-fake buyers close their eyes while also buying this fake
The Roman Polyphallus is also one of the favorite engravings of roman_rings :-)
We congratulate the winner of this ring. 410, - US $ for a fake is almost a bargain
and the next legionary ring, this time with a galley..............
These rings with protruding shoulders seem to associate the buyers that they need to be absolutely real. Otherwise I can the sudden run on these rings not imagine.
They were ignored for years and were both real and fake hard to sell. Now inundate Legion rings from the Balkans the market, and not a buyer notices fraud. Once the word Legion ring appears, the mind is automatically switched off
located in USA - delivery from Serbia
and again real fakes directly from Serbia and no one notices anything
the ignorance of the buyer makes cheating easy
Meanwhile, the fake seller have no inhibitions. Sure, the ebay seller protection makes it easy
Apparently there are a few basic models, of which the fakes are produced then changed individually.
SPQR is popular for fakes. For years, the SPQR fakes ghosts through ebay. :-)
I am not quite clear as well, why should a Legion ring SPQR has engraved. Senatus Populusque Romanus (Senate and People of Rome) was the emblem of the Roman Republic, but which ended in 27 BC.
By the way, we have never come across a genuine SPQR Roman ring.
If the Gold Legion ring would be really genuine, it would have belonged a high-ranking officer of the Roman army and subject to a strict export ban on ancient heritage of Serbia.
Of course, this does not apply to fakes. Since one can also start with a low starting price. Bidders are totally uncritically at Legion rings and certainly be brainless forfeited a Legion ring of gold .
Interesting bid history for the silver fake ..35 bids but only 3 bidders and there are more than 2 days remaining. Shill bidding?? or simply a few fools who push up the price by their bids
The sales of this gold fake ring raises questions. One hour after a successful sale has the same ring sold again, but more expensive.
Since there are many possible explanations
- The buyer has noticed in time that the ring is a fake
- The seller has sold the ring again. Since the rings come from a local fake production that should be no problem to copy it again
- shill bidding went wrong (quite likely)
Anyway, the second buyer would rather have this fake left.
Second buyer was ebay seller "broncka". He removed the auction after fake info and item test. The negative feedback for this purchase we could only get from the buyer ebay account because markovicenza has switched his feedback privately, they are therefore no longer be viewed.
master-numismatics..................located in USA markovicenza.....................located in USA
address:
Milos Andrejevic same address as master-numismatics
1702 West 7 st. apt.3DL
11223 New York City, NY
United States
Delivery comes from..................Serbia delivery comes from Serbia
Miki Milosevic Marco Nikolić
HUM bb (bb = ,,bez broja" (means without number and/or street name) 18000 Niš BB (BB = ,,"bez broja" ( means without number and/or street name).
Serbia Serbia
mail: Marija N <maridzice13@gmail.com>
This shop manufacturing imitation jewelery and related articles we found with the help of the Slovenian buyer of the gold fake:
Marko Nikolić
Radnih brigada 24
18000 Niš
Serbia
Draw your own conclusions
seller changed his ID and with this change the negative feedback for the goldring left?
ancient-lord 05.12.15 aktuell
markovicenza 12.06.11 05.12.15
Postscript.....
I have contacted the buyer of the gold ring. My mail under the reply of the buyer boncka. In short, the purchaser was also surprised that the negative feedback has been deleted.
from boncka :
Hallo, ich habe die bewertung nicht geandert und weis nicht was los ist. Ich begleite auch nicht mehr dem verkaufer mit velchem ich sclechte erfarung gehabt habe.
Danke und gruss
Translation of his answer " I did not remove or change the negative feedback and do not know actually what happened . Seller, with whom I have had bad experiences, I am no longer following " Thanks and greetings
my message:
HI, you might remember the bad experiences you have had with markovicenza. Unfortunately your negative feedback left and this untrustworthy seller now continues with another ID on ebay "ancient-lord".
did you remove this feedback? why?
A PDF file of this correspondence attached too.
Some very strange things going on.
marcovicenza now changed to ancient-lord
ancient-lord 05.12.15 aktuell
markovicenza 12.06.11 05.12.15
marcovicenza – no information can be found online about them now!
Then look on http://www.toolhaus.org/
VERY strange!
Admin
ancient-lord aca markovicenza has overcome the shock. The negative feedback of the buyer of the gold fake was removed.
Now may also be sold with this account again lots of fakes.
The scam of the quartet is transparent. The master usually sells gold rings, his other ID's are responsible for the rest. Old rings jazzed up with engravings, Legion rings wherever you look, silver fakes with or without gems. And ebay watches, rubbing its hands and earned at every fake (Is that not aid for fraud?).
sold items: http://www.ebay.com/csc/ancient-lord/m.html?LH_Complete=1&_ipg=50&_since=15&_sop=13&_rdc=1
pay attention to the legionsfake. Not bad the price obtained for a piece of worthless silver
I imagine, as once the heirs of these countless counterfeits eagerly anticipating a valuable inheritance let examine the value and authenticity at a museum. The faces I want to see if they find out that they just keep rubbish in hands.
Crown of Thorns .... has already been sold some time ago by aca_numismatics now ancient_numismatics.
incredibly, with this fake potential buyers are really fooled
the Legion fake flagship is active again.......................................
Legion rings galore and the fake-collectors still buy blindly. Amazing :-)
As long as the buyers believe they can buy valuable ancient treasures at a bargain price on ebay, the fraud is booming with fakes. One thing is certain, ebay auctionen with a starting price of $ 0.99 for valuable genuine artifacts are highly likely fakes.
Logical conclusion. If two countries such as Bulgaria and Serbia (previously Yugoslavia) are offering unusual number of gold and silver rings in always different shapes and engravings, this can only come from their own counterfeit workshop. The same goes for coins and other artifacts.
If suddenly all bronze rings have clearly visible engravings, indicates this to a "reworking".
similar gold ring but with different intaglio has been sold a few month ago from his other ID master-numismatics
and even a legion ring
following another Legatus forgery
the first "Legatus" fake from ancient_numismatics you might enjoy here:
http://ancientartifakes.net/smf/index.php/topic,1100.30.html
Let us state the obvious difference between a copy and a fake on the market – when a buyer knows an object is a copy – it is a copy, when resold as an authentic object – it is a fake.
compare surface and damages of the rings with those of ancient_numismatics. All from the same workshop
next legionary fake...............same surface, same damages, same scratches inside hoop, even that earth deposit equal to all gold fakes from the Balkan region and as always, engraving like "new" Oh, I forgot, of course, from a Legatus.
There are increasing opportunities ........ as yet are missing the rings of Roman rulers. Of course, exclusively from the Serbian fake Mafia
This globally operating fake seller must feel very safe and invulnerable. For the Augustus silver / gold forgery (ancient_numismatics) practically the front side of the same coin as for the Minerva counterfeit was cast.
Beautiful gold ring - but also real? Or was here copied skillfully a similar silver ring, which was sold some time ago. Very improbable, that suddenly a nearly identical cameo was found in a similar ring (this time of gold). And if this ring also comes still from the fake triangle in Eastern Europe, caution is advised.
We lost many articles, pictures and comments by the collapse of our forum. But the fake sellers are hard-working, fast money is a strong motivation and also completely risk-free thanks to ebay's business policy.
A positive side effect, when one sees the fake yield juxtaposed, one gets only an idea about the enormous quantity brought on the market thanks ebay.
Let's begin with the "fake of the month" an eid mar silver ring. ....and finish with same ring, the buyer tries now the second time to resell.
Impressive gold ring.... what an unique ancient heritage for sale on ebay.
As always without export licence delivered directly from the Serbian excavation site to the interested collector. The Serbian customs certainly expresses a blind eye.
Or should this piece of Constantine's son be a fake? Then, of course, an export licence is not needed.
The Serbian group now sells an average of more than 10 fakes / weekly on ebay. The spiced up bronze rings not included.
The latest trend from Serbia. Almost every ring is now a legion ring. Inhibitions? ...No. Meanwhile, no fake collector knows how genuine rings look like.
The Serbian headquarter (counterfeiting workshop) now distributes bulks of silver, gold, and bronze fakes over middlemen from the USA and the UK. The Serbian fakes are about to conquer the eBay market. I believe that hardly a buyer knows what a genuine ring looks like. This absurd bargain-hunting destroys the market for really genuine artifacts and fills the pockets of the fake seller.
Soon no collector of antique jewelery will know how real genuine items look. Since years the Serbs and Bulgarians have flooded the market with fakes, so that the counterfeits are regarded as genuine by ebay buyers.
"O dear look what a nice Roman ring I bought on ebay. It was a real bargain - cheaper than a modern thing from today" So or similar could be the conversation between ebay-fake-collectors.
Whence the ever-changing engravings come, I can explain. The forger copy from coins. And of these there are really enough :-)
The remaining rest they find in auctions catalogues, from other ebay-sellers or museums.
In the past week, the Serbian team of five has focused on the Roman genitals. Each member of this group offered at least one corresponding item.
As to the spintria:
There are experts who know exactly what the function of these objects was: they were bought at the brothel's entrance. The representations had to be regarded as a kind of catalogue of pleasures on offer in that particular brothel. After choosing a position one went into the chamber whose number the token's reverse stated and the beauties - which mostly came from exotic countries - were instantly informed about their customers' desire.
Excerpt from http://www.coinsweekly.com/en/Archive/8?&id=9&type=a
We, too, know objects whose representation can vary but whose value remain the same. I am referring to playing cards. The spintriae may well have had a similar function - as tokens in a game whose rules are unknown to us.
In early Imperial Rome, the act wasn't declared a taboo. Although Augustus went to great lengths to restore the old customs of the forefathers, he failed - even in his own family. Hence, these images were part of everyday life, also suitable to decorate objects of utility such as tokens of a game, the wall of a villa or oil lamps. Private companies manufactured these tokens and distributed them - as they later did with the contorniates.
And the moral of the story is? Nothing is as dirty as what the viewer's dirty imagination turns it into.
the next fauxpas of a fake sellers with zero clue.
Forger seems to have engraved the inscription incorrectly. Correct "Victrix". I could not find anywhere that Victrix suddenly became Vitrix. Note anyway no fake-collector
http://roman-britain.co.uk/military/leg6victrix.htm
pls. refer to another fake appliqué from the Serb gang, posted July 10, 2016,
http://ancientartifakes.net/smf/index.php/topic,1100.30.html
Next fraud........................
really busy the Serbian fake workshop. After all, the Serbs offer 10-15 silver rings / week with their many IDs on ebay. Added the spiced up bronze rings and other artefacts. In between, some real things. Not half bad. The seemingly uncritical ebay bargain hunters fill their pockets.
a copied Medieval Ring (likely Tudor period) sold as Roman.
Let us state the obvious difference between a copy and a fake on the market – when a buyer knows an object is a copy – it is a copy, when resold as an authentic object – it is a fake.
Pls. read the thread regarding shill bidding within the Serb group http://ancientartifakes.net/smf/index.php/topic,1215.0.html
draw your own conclusions, why few bidders and many bids. The Bid histories of two rings attached
the "Trident" fake relisted within 2 days. I guess shill bidding went wrong
GROUNDHOG DAY and no end in sight
14 days fake selling by the Serbian group.
Number of fakes 48
of which 46 rings
the spiced up bronze rings are not included
recorded Dec., 19, 2017
It seems that nobody sees the similarity of the rings
uniques77777 with its total of 3 branches (IDs) on ebay seems to be outrunning the Yugoslav gang.
The fake collectors prefer bulks of crude and badly crafted fakes.
Referring to the amount of weekly fakes, the Bulgarian forgers have overtaken the Serbian counterfeiting workshop.
A boundless competition has begun. On the track remain the betrayed fake collectors
quote....
"Rule 1: if it looks like it was made yesterday, then it probably was. Rule 2: If you have to suspend all logic and rationality in your analysis of the item to believe the item is authentic , then it is a fake. Rule 3: If it looks too good to be true,then it is in all likelihood a fake."
The Serbian forger mafia now also relies on quantity. The Bulgarians - here especially uniques77777- list so many fakes that sales can only be achieved by increasing the quantity.
The Serbian group (6 gang members) now sells 4-5 silver ring fakes per member. Total of 20 to 26 fakes per week.
From now on I will leave the pictures uncommented. The crowd forces a quick and efficient show-off. By now, the attentive observers may well be able to identify the fakes as such.
all from the same counterfeiting workshop
compare the rings from the Serb group.............all from the same fake workshop
weekly fake parade
fake update
shill bidding went wrong :-)
For a long time, due to lack of time, I was only able to collect the pics. Interesting, what one discovers in this way.
This scam went wrong. Gold fake offered as a grave related item? Ebay did actually react once and closed the auction. It happened even signs and wonders
impressive fake overview
fakes to choose from - once silver and another time gold.
feedback for the gold fake allegedly from the I-II C. BC.
Fast shipping and exactly as described !! Thanks so much Buyer: o***2
** ZEUS **Ancient PURE GOLD Greek-Roman Ring !!! 3,52g (#113810397760) US $480.55
the Serbian fake sellers are currently pretty covered. Little fakes are offered. Not surprising. The market is saturated with fakes. The Bulgarians are offering masses of counterfeits and, above all, the new generation of naive bargain hunters must first regrow.
Euphoric feedback for a fake. One of the reasons why the scammers on ebay are so successful. Hardly any buyer notices that he spent his money on worthless counterfeits.