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Quote from: Jerry F on November 07, 2022, 02:58:49 PM
He wrote... "He estimates that about 30 percent of "antiquities" currently for sale on eBay are obvious fakes....."
That was 2009. Now more like 99% !!
Jerry.

Yes, and it is a terrible increase that should be stopped by the pertinent authorities....
#2
While most of the data in this 2009 article still appears relevant, the percentages of fakes vs. genuine has indeed skyrocketed. Ebay effectively washed its hands of even a minimal degree of oversight and accountability when it began grouping everything into the "Other Decorative Collectibles" category. Now it doesn't matter if the item is real or fake or stolen or misappropriated or dispensed from a Moroccan bubblegum machine or illegally extracted from a site of human remains. Ebay couldn't care less.

Gaius
#3
He wrote... "He estimates that about 30 percent of "antiquities" currently for sale on eBay are obvious fakes....."
That was 2009. Now more like 99% !!
Jerry.
#5
FAKE-RING-data base / Re: Real ancient ring sellers ...
Last post by Blond Devil BR - November 06, 2022, 10:50:24 PM
Thanks to you two, Gaius and Admin. I will try to get any one of theses references and train a lot for being able to chose serious sellers on ebay.
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FAKE-RING-data base / Re: Real ancient ring sellers ...
Last post by admin - November 04, 2022, 01:00:09 PM
The two book by Tom Pollio mentioned above are to be especially recommended.

This review is entirely correct.



This comprehensive guide fills a critical void in the available literature regarding ancient finger rings comprised of base metals and low grade silver alloy. Increasingly, these modest relics of times past are being unearthed and sold through a growing assortment of worldwide venues. Unfortunately, the accompanying descriptions are often inaccurate and unreliable in the extreme. To date, the available reference material for researchers and collectors has been almost entirely restricted to the historic and "high end" pieces of the past, i.e., the gold and precious stones of royalty and the very wealthy. The public has had next to nothing with which to evaluate these common rings.

This guide not only examines the physical structure of these pieces, but also the images and symbols which are such important elements of these ancient artifacts. As such, this book is an invaluable guide not only for merchants and collectors, but also researchers, students and educators regarding the types of ancient rings so conspicuously missing in the available literature.
#7
FAKE-RING-data base / Re: Real ancient ring sellers ...
Last post by gaius asinius - November 03, 2022, 10:53:36 AM
Dennis five printed recommendations are as follows:


F.H. Marshall, Catalogue of the Finger Rings: Greek, Etruscan and Roman, in the departments of antiquities, British Museum. Originally published in 1907. Pictures are tiny & grainy but a ton of examples with accompanying descriptions


O.M. Dalton, Catalogue of the Finger Rings, Early Christian, Byzantine, Teutonic, Medieval and Later ..... In The Museum British Museum. Another standard reference, this one from 1912


Friedrich Henkel, Die römischen Fingerringe der Rheinlande und der benachbarten Gebiete. Roman rings from Germany. Published in 1913. Grainy pictures again and text is in German
1913

T.N. Pollio, Ancient Rings: An Illustrated Collector's Guide. A good modern compilation of common finger rings from the Bronze Age to early Modern Period. Available in paperback and eBook from Amazon

T.N. Pollio, The Art of Medieval Jewelry: An Illustrated History. Another profusely illustrated modern study of common finger rings from the 6th to 16th century. Also available from Amazon

Gaius
#8
FAKE-RING-data base / Re: Real ancient ring sellers ...
Last post by Kelly123 - November 03, 2022, 10:45:26 AM
You will find this useful though it is fairly basic.

https://finds.org.uk/counties/findsrecordingguides/finger-rings/

Kelly
#9
FAKE-RING-data base / Re: Real ancient ring sellers ...
Last post by Blond Devil BR - November 03, 2022, 01:30:00 AM
Thank you one more time.
Can you tell me were to find pictures of real roman rings? I will use them for comparison in my quest for some authentic ones....
#10
FAKE-RING-data base / Re: Real ancient ring sellers ...
Last post by gaius asinius - November 02, 2022, 10:52:34 PM
Dennis none of the rings in these listings date to the Roman Period. The initial two appear roughly between the 8th and 11th centuries. The assortment in the final listing run the gamut from approximately the 10th and 14th centuries. The exception are the three decorate rosette rings, which are dateable to between the 15th and 17th century. So the good news is they are all authentic. The bad news is none of them are Roman. If you have your heart set on a Roman ring, skip these three listings.

Gaius