Five more bits of phony baloney from the ever industrious fabricators at ANTIQUES AND ARTEFACTS UK. Note that in 2nd row Mr. Thai Shyster remains in the game with his latest hilarious Harappan flowerpot.

Do let us klnow what you do and the result.
Hope he takes these things back and refunds you.

Admin.

Thank you everyone for your information.

It's amazing how gullible people are!
All these sold as ancient Minoan!

ANCIENT MINOAN INTACT POTTERY AMPHORA VESSEL  - 3000bce


Height: 11 cm

Weight: 178 grams


Please note you are bidding on 1 amphora only. the picture shows different angles of the same vessel


Dating From Around 2000 - 2600 BC.This Item has Come from a Private 1970s Collection. This auction is for one vessel only.

Wonder where the birdie came from?
Search on google images and hey presto, this pair appear side by side! :o)

Here is another  fake thing from Mr Mir which is badly copied from a well known original in the British Museum


http://tinyurl.com/2hx5mxvh


https://www.worldhistory.org/image/7281/decapitated-heads-of-assyrian-enemies/

Alabaster bas-relief showing Assyrian soldiers holding the decapitated heads of their defeated enemy before Assyrian musicians. Neo-Assyrian Period, 865-860 BCE. Detail of Panel 6 (top), Room B, the North-Palace Palace, Nimrud, modern-day Iraq. (The British Museum, London)

Kelly

These terracotta vessels are not typically Mycenaean. While Mycenaean pottery is notable for its decoration early Common Wares are plain and undecorated. They are however very rarely on the antiquities market and are not easy to distinguish from very similar Common Wares found across the Mediterranean area. They are made from a red coarse and porous clay and often contain grit. Later on in the Helladic period  even common wares became decorated. Plain wares with simple darker color banding have a typically glossy glaze.

I don't think these pots are Mycenaean at all. They are really very difficult to identify. They might be late Hellenistic Greek common wares or even Roman.

If the seller is certain with his attribution he should be able to explain why and give you references in books or links online to parallel pieces.

But of course we all know that Michael Davies knows zilch about ancient artefacts and anything he says in to be taken with a pinch of salt, as they say.

Look, he has without any doubt crooked you on the large more elaborate pieces and has misattributed the supposed "Harrappan" pots. You are surely entitled to send everything back and demand a full refund.

He does after all write: "In the rare case that you are not satisfied with a purchase, returns of an item are welcome within 30 days of receiving the item. You must ship the item insured and registered. Within 48hours of receiving the item back we will process the refund for you. If you do intend to return a item please contact us via EMAIL to arrange it".

Contact eBay right away if he does not agree to this. Good luck !

PS: Some useful information about Mycenaean pottery.

https://library.oapen.org/bitstream/handle/20.500.12657/35074/1/340275.pdf

https://www.ceramicstudies.me.uk/histx105.html

https://dor.huji.ac.il/Download/Article/QedemReports2_Ch6.pdf

Spotty (if I may) think you're setting the bar too high by adding six more potential fakes to an already overflowing docket. Focus on the FEW that are most demonstrably phony & do your necessary documentation/due diligence. If you're in the UK (as is P.T. Barnum Nouveau) you have a better chance with a civil case, à la the Sadigh affair in NYC. If outside UK jurisdiction your options are limited as to my knowledge no international agency is empowered to sanction crooks like this. If there were this wouldn't still be such an issue after all the times he's gotten snagged.

Hi,
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First I want to thank you all. GA especially for his sentiments, Jerry thanks for the information on the nal or also called Amri nal ware.
So far based on the responses,
I feel I have two arguments:
1) the listing is not accurately described not harrapan etc.
2) I feel there cant be so many zebu's for sale or even excavated intact from these locations. But I have two here who feel they may be genuine.
 
Any other that you all feel would be helpful. Yes I will use this forum and the fact he was list as a top ten fake seller.
One last request if any one can help. These are the last set of pottery I got and I am not sure now either. Any help appreciated. Thanks
S

PS kelly I joined that other forum .. now I get emails from there of conversation between members which I am not sure how to stop.