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chris:
Let us acclaim the new development on ebay
   Fantastic result of years of efforts, researches, and bombing of the ebay-secure centers with counterfeit sellers. For years, no response - for years tacit connivance -.

And now - quasi from one day to another -  suddenly ebay listen us, draws the conclusions and shut at least temporarily  the worst counterfeit-sellers out ! Behind this global cleansing action is certainly more . Ebay has been a massive revenue loss since a few years. Spectacular trials against ebay have damaged its reputation. Some countries have adopted strict guidelines which ebay has to follow. Gradually are growing competition. Paypal has now to cover more than 25% of the ebay turnover. More drastic sales declines through the global financial crisis are expected.
   
Considering everything I could imagine that this cleansing action will be used for a giant advertising campaign from ebay to restore their image and to increase the sales.

I expect that most of the banned crooks will come back. They will be cautious at the beginning, the fakes will look different, but generally will not change much. For a brief time the calm has been restored. It is as if ebay has given us leave.

But nevertheless, salute this victory, no matter how it came about.

chris

chris:
And now almost 5 years after this success protects ebay their fake sellers, as never before!

Interesting thread....http://ancientartifakes.net/smf/index.php/topic,1079.0.html

Ebay takes from each sale of fakes their high sales charges, Paypal earn hefty fees to each payment. Why should not run so on this lucrative business, as it is now.


You need to register on the forum to get to the link above( and elsewhere on the forum)
But anyway, this is much of  what it says there:

Ebay protect its fake sellers

« on: November 14, 2014, 10:26:53 AM »
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Ebay protect its fake sellers

* That’s impossible to contact buyers of fakes was only the first step of ebay to protect its sellers. Whether honest or not.
 
* The bidders are defaced, therefore can not be warned during auction or from the feedback list. A few years were sellers who put the bidders list private, even    
   denounced as potential fake sellers.

* Some sellers even prevent contact during auction. Makes one think a lot.

* Feedback can obviously be apparently removed at will.

To the facts: I bought a relatively inexpensive silver ring with coinauctions12 as I watch this sellers for a long time. My suspicion was confirmed. This simple ring was a fake. A modern cast ,polished without any traces of use. The ring with new patina.

Summary of coinauctions12 versions:

The ring was cleaned with chemicals, then polished and again provided with new patina .Why polished first and then new patina? You guessed right, so the ring looks as if it were old. Contradict itself right? Not if you want to sell fakes on this way.

After a week I left a factual, technically correct negative feedback
"Ring is neither Roman nor old . It's a cheap cast forgery"

And now came the surprise.Without having filed a claimsoft on ebay , nor having contacted the seller accordingly, I received the refund. After a certain time ebay has removed this feedback and the neutral feedback (same seller) for another questionable object too. Now this power seller has 100% positive feedbacks again, although I left one negative and one neutral. The vest is white again we would say in Germany :-)



Almost 10% sales fee, whether fake or not, of course, is a strong argument for ebay's profit greed.
Now it is no wonder that the worst sellers of counterfeits can once again conquer the ebay marketplace !
  




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An interesting excerpt from a fraud report about saxbys-coins:

"He has a great scam going -- by selling largely authentic but cheap coins he is able to rack up lots of positive feedback.  He can slip in a few too-good-to-be-true coins along with them -- they sometimes go for much higher prices.  Note that if you check the feedback it is almost all for items that were fairly cheap -- less than about $200 -- where is the feedback for the higher-priced more suspicious coins?  One individual on a fraud site suggested that Mr. Stocks complains to eBay when he gets negative feedback and it is removed, thereby maintaining his high positive numbers.  It really works well for everyone except those who end up with forgeries -- Saxby's gets their money, eBay gets their fees -- quite a scam.  We can only hope that reports to eBay will at some point really be investigated.  I've also reported it to the FBI, so maybe that will get eBay to notice."


The full report can be read here:
https://sites.google.com/site/coinfraudwatch/saxbys-coins

which confirms my own experiences. Power seller can complain their negative feedback to ebay and induce that it is removed.
The only weapon of the aggrieved buyer is worthless.


  

 
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eBay certainly does not advertise this!
 
http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/defect-removal.html#guidelines
 
Other people complain about it too.
 
http://www.city-data.com/forum/shopping-consumer-products/903500-ebay-removed-my-negative-feedback-seller-3.html
 
http://www.powersellersunite.com/archive.php/o_t__t_45254__evidence-of-ebay-removing-cases-poor-feedback.html
 
 
Seems anyway one cannot  leave  neutral or  negative feedback for power sellers  until 7 days anyway!
 
http://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Archive-Buyer-Central/power-seller-protection-from-less-than-positive-feedback/td-p/314966
 
 
 
 
 




admin:
Hmmm
 ???

admin:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2009-05-31/news/0905310053_1_ebay-ancient-artifacts-archaeologists

http://archive.archaeology.org/0905/etc/insider.html


EBay responds
Usher Lieberman, an EBay spokesman, says that if fake antiquities were as rampant as Stanish claims, buyers would complain and EBay would police the problem as it does when corporations alert it that knockoffs of their brands are being sold as authentic. "We take very seriously any claims that items sold on the site aren't genuine. . . . This isn't something we're hearing a lot about."

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hah hah hah

admin:
eBay Admits It Banned A Whistleblower Warning Shoppers About Fake Products

http://uk.businessinsider.com/ebay-admits-it-banned-a-whistleblower-2014-11

I suppose we shouldn’t be surprised.

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